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Roosevelt Roberts is a NoC witness not only because he saw the plane flying away, but also because he reported where it came from: the impact side, almost right from the impact site. A Boeing 757 or similar could
Roosevelt Roberts is a NoC witness not only because he saw the plane flying away, but also because he reported where it came from: the impact side, almost right from the impact site. A Boeing 757 or similar could from the impact site to the south parking only if it would begin the roll on a NoC path, the angle from the SoC path would be too sharp:
Version vom 4. Dezember 2011, 15:08 Uhr
Roosevelt Roberts is a NoC witness not only because he saw the plane flying away, but also because he reported where it came from: the impact side, almost right from the impact site. A Boeing 757 or similar could veer from the impact site to the south parking only if it would begin the roll on a NoC path, the angle from the SoC path would be too sharp:
Craig Ranke: Right, but from what direction did it seem like it came from? Roosevelt Roberts: It seemed like that it came from uh... it... hold on a second... it seem like it came from uh... south west.. look, the same way it came in or appeared that it came in, almost right where that first plane had uhm... fell into the Pentagon right there, it.. it.. the.. it looked like it came from that direction.
The full interview:
Interviewer: Aldo Marquis, Craig Ranke Interviewee: Roosevelt Roberts Date: May 2008 Type of interview: Phone conversation Aldo Marquis: Hello Roosevelt? Roosevelt Roberts: Yeah, yeah Aldo Marquis: Alright, thanks for taking the call Roosevelt Roberts: Okay. Aldo Marquis: Yeah, I just... We.. We have been listening to the recordings that, I guess Jennifer Brennan, which is the daughter of one of the other police officers there, what he had uh..I guess.. she had done with you guys. If I can really quick, just uh, if you can just tell your story.. Roosevelt Roberts: Uh...hold on one second, uh... you caught me driving, uhm.. Aldo Marquis: Okay, well you know what, let me, let me, let me just ask you a couple of quick questions, there was mainly a couple of specific things. When you, you had mentioned, right as you hung up the phone, you ran outside.. Which parking lot, which dock were you at? Roosevelt Roberts: I was in south parking, and I was at the [east?] loading dock, when I ran outside and saw the low flying aircraft above the parking lot. Aldo Marquis: Okay, was it a, was it a....a... jet, or was it a... do you remember what kind of plane it was? Roosevelt Roberts: Looked like to me at that time....a large aircraft liner, it wasn't a jet, it was a commercial aircraft. Aldo Marquis: Okay, did it have propellers or did it have jet engines? Roosevelt Roberts: It looked like jet engines at that time Aldo Marquis: Jet engines, okay. So, how close were you to running outside, because this seemed to be pretty quick, at least from your account sounded like, it sounded like, literally, the explosion happened and then you ran outside, I mean do you remember how many seconds it was when, you heard the explosion and then saw that plane? Roosevelt Roberts: From the sound of the explosion hit till I ran outside.... it's a loading dock, and you can run right out to the (inaudible) look out and look off. Then you see the flickering lights inside the area, and then real quick I realize it was some sort of attack and there was going to be a countermeasure with it. Aldo Marquis: Right, so how many seconds would you guess? Roosevelt Roberts: Maybe...10 seconds tops. Aldo Marquis: 10 seconds tops? Roosevelt Roberts: 10 seconds tops. Aldo Marquis: So you heard the explosion, and 10 seconds later you were outside and you were able to see that plane? Roosevelt Roberts: Correct, you could see that plane just as clear as day, couldn't miss it. Aldo Marquis: What color was it, do you remember? Roosevelt Roberts: It was....To me at that time it looked like it was silver in color. Aldo Marquis: Like silver in color, but you saw it over the south parking lot. Roosevelt Roberts: Right, around the lane one area, and it was like banking, just above the light poles like. Aldo Marquis: Okay. Roosevelt Roberts: Had to been no more than, had to been no more than 50 feet less than a 100 feet. Aldo Marquis: Wow. And do you remember how many engines you saw on it? Roosevelt Roberts: Couldn't count for the engines.. Aldo Marquis: And it was.. Was it moving fast? Roosevelt Roberts: It was moving extremely fast. It was like maybe you saw that aircraft maybe for like a quick five seconds. Aldo Marquis: For a quick five seconds, but you definitely, you saw it over the south parking lot? Over lane one... Roosevelt Roberts: In the south, in the south parking lot over lane one. Aldo Marquis: Okay. Do you remember in which direction it was headed? Roosevelt Roberts: Coming from the 27 side 27 heading, uh... uh east towards DC, coming from that area ..uh.. was the highway. If you would have come out 395 North heading towards the Pentagon you got off in south parking. You were like right there, except 395 went right into 27. Aldo Marquis: So from where, from where then headed away from the Pentagon, which direction was it heading? Roosevelt Roberts: From the... uh.. can you repeat that one more time please? Aldo Marquis: Yeah, when it was heading away from the Pentagon, this .. this second plane, do you remember which direction it was heading? Roosevelt Roberts: It was heading.. back across 27, and it looks like, it appeared to me I was in the south, and that plane was heading like uh... south west.. coming out. Aldo Marquis: So like banking around, turning back around? Roosevelt Roberts: Correct. Aldo Marquis: Okay. Roosevelt Roberts: Banking, banking around, coming back out turning south west and going straight across. Aldo Marquis: Okay, so.. did it look like it went out over the river and kinda turned around? Roosevelt Roberts: It looked like it went over on the mall entrance side and turning around because you got the mall there and then where I was was south, and the plane from the direction it was heading it was facing west so it went south west away from the pentagon. Aldo Marquis: south west away from the Pentagon, okay, so kinda doing a U-turn in a way? Roosevelt Roberts: Right. Aldo Marquis: Okay. Roosevelt Roberts: Cause it banked out, and it was like u-turning, coming around and coming out, it looked like, [for a brief second?] it looked like it, it, uh.... How am I gonna say this...it missed the wrong target, and it's going like out of the way like back to the airport or something like that. Aldo Marquis: Oh like, so it's headed the towards the airport it looked like.. Roosevelt Roberts: Well no, not heading towards the airport, it's almost like if uh.. if a pilot missed his (inaudible) he'll try to do a banking and coming around because he missed the target, he missed the landing zone. Aldo Marquis: Got it, got it. And you're, you're, are you a hundred percent sure it was a jet, an actual jet plane? Roosevelt Roberts: Commercial aircraft. Aldo Marquis: Commercial aircraft, okay. So there was another... So there was another commercial aircraft in the area as, as the uh... the plane hit then basically is that what you think? Roosevelt Roberts: Yes sir, that's not what I think I saw it, it was two aircraft that's for sure. Aldo Marquis: Okay. Craig Ranke: Now where, where did it seem like it came from? Roosevelt Roberts: It seemed like [incomprehensible], by the time I got the dock it was already in the parking lot in lane one, and it was so large, you couldn't miss from seeing it. Craig Ranke: Right, but from what direction did it seem like it came from? Roosevelt Roberts: It seemed like that it came from uh... it... hold on a second... it seem like it came from uh... south west.. look, the same way it came in or appeared that it came in, almost right where that first plane had uhm... fell into the Pentagon right there, it.. it.. the.. it looked like it came from that direction. Craig Ranke: So from the same direction as as as the f.. Aldo Marquis: From the impact side basically, from that direction? Roosevelt Roberts: Everyth....right..exactly. Aldo Marquis: Got it. Got it. Craig Ranke: Okay. Aldo Marquis: Eh..okay, so and.. and.. but would... Now how long would... I mean would you be sure that it was about 10 seconds that it would take you to run from the phone to the outside or would you think it was less than 10 seconds? Craig Ranke: Or a little bit more? Roosevelt Roberts: It was taking about 10 seconds because prior impact I stepped out the little booth that I was in and the distance between that booth and the edge of that dock is about maybe I don't know like 7 steps away from there. Aldo Marquis: Wow. Roosevelt Roberts: So ... it was extremely close. Aldo Marquis: Got it. Got it. Craig Ranke: You were right there. Aldo Marquis: You were right there, okay. Roosevelt Roberts: Yeah. Aldo Marquis: Well uh... Would it.. I'll let you get going there, uhm... Would it be possible to get an e-mail from you so we can even get uh... like you to draw on a map exactly where you saw everything and where you were standing, cause, I'm trying to gauge everything and it's kinda hard without seeing it on an overhead. Would that be possible? Roosevelt Roberts: Oh... s[ure].. Yeah that's not a problem. Uhm... my e-mail address? Aldo Marquis: Yeah, yeah go ahead. Roosevelt Roberts: Is... [censored] dot mil Aldo Marquis: Dot mil... okay Roosevelt Roberts: And I've uh.. switched from uh.. being a (inaudible) to a special aid, and I work for the anti-terrorism squad protection directorate now. Aldo Marquis: Okay, alright excellent. Well uhm.. we definitely would love that.. When is another good time to get in touch with you where we could speak more at length with you? Roosevelt Roberts: I'm going to be back in the office no later than two o'clock. Aldo Marquis: Okay. We'll try to give you a buzz back later then and I'm assuming this is your cellphone, or it transfers to your cellphone? Roosevelt Roberts: Yes sir, it's my cellphone. Aldo Marquis: Okay great. Well again, I appreciate the time.. You'll definitely be hearing back from me and I appreciate you taking the time to talk to us, Roosevelt. Roosevelt Roberts: Hey, no problem, any time. Aldo Marquis: Alright buddy, we'll talk to you soon. Roosevelt Roberts: Okay, stay safe. Aldo Marquis: You too man, bye bye. Roosevelt Roberts: Out.
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